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助理策展人：莫万莉

她是同济大学建筑与城市规划学院建筑学博士候选人。她于耶鲁大学建筑学院获得建筑学硕士学位；

她曾策划“甜蜜的家”（上海当代艺术博物馆，2017）和“止物”（北京OCAT研究中心，2018）等展览，并担任第16届威尼斯国际建筑双年展中国国家馆和上海2017城市空间艺术季助理策展人；

自2018年，她担任Architecture China杂志执行编辑。她曾在包括《建筑学报》、《时代建筑》、《艺术新闻》等刊物多次发表文章。

作为杰出的青年建筑学者兼策展人，莫万莉策划过多次艺术展览，她与她的同学邓圆也和林琳组成了策展团队“家庭妇女讨论群”，并共同策划“甜蜜的家”（上海当代艺术博物馆，2017）展览，侧重于对女性在社会中不同身份的考察，以及对女性和家庭之间关系的思考。该作品在2017年度上海当代艺术博物馆“青年策展计划”中，历经四个月的方案落地，获得了第一名。

“甜蜜的家”展览现场 

“止物”展览现场 

《逝者如斯》邀约专访：莫万莉

问

作为《逝者如斯》展览的助理策展人，能否谈谈您对这个展览的理解？

莫：2020年的一场疫情似乎从根本上改变了大家的生活，也使得之前的一些趋势进入了“加速”。我觉得《逝者如斯》这次展览非常有趣地通过建筑师与艺术家的合作，完成了一次异地共时的联结，而这正是疫情给我们留下的重要的、也是全新的空间体验。无论是在线的会议、研讨或是展览和艺博会，它使得我们开始以一种虚拟的方式去完成过去在现实空间中发生的一种体验，也使得如何在虚拟空间中再现真实空间以及其所蕴含的公共性成为了一个迫切需要回应的议题。

“边园”现场图片

APSMUSEUM《逝者如斯》展览鸟瞰效果图

在这次展览中，通过位于杨浦滨江的边园影像与邱岸雄老师创作的一系列逐渐失重的人物的叠加，为观众带来一种对城市空间和日常生活的陌生化体验。它一方面为我们打开了一种体验城市的全新视角，一方面也通过那些逐渐失重的人物，触发一种对当下的生活状态的反思。我特别期待开幕当天、由金望老师创作的复调音乐表演，它似乎通过相隔浦江的异地乐手的同时表演，又建立了一种新的联结关系。

问

《逝者如斯》是关于两个空间的交互，一边位于城市中心商场中的艺术空间，另一边是功能消失的工业建筑，您觉得这两个空间的结合有什么特别之处吗？

莫：我觉得选择这两个性质和状态迥异的空间进行结合，似乎完成了一种跨越历史的对话。边园源自一处被废弃的工业场址中的一面长墙，它是上海的过去的工业历史的见证者；而位于陆家嘴的L+ Mall则隶属于上海这座城市最为当代和鲜活的部分。通过将边园的现场，经由网络和屏幕，在APSMUSEUM中再现，它使得现场的观众能够感受到一种不一样的时间维度。

问

您有着建筑设计与理论研究背景，同时也曾策划过多次艺术展览，对于艺术和建筑结合的未来有什么看法吗？

莫：在过去，建筑往往被视为一门艺术。事实上，从古至今，建筑师和艺术家的身份之间的界限往往十分模糊。譬如，Gordon Matta-Clark就曾在康奈尔学习建筑，而对空间的认知也体现在他的不少作品中。又如，诸如妹岛和世、藤本壮介、石上纯也等建筑师也均曾进行过艺术装置的创作。我觉得未来或许并非艺术和建筑结合，而是如何引入空间的视角，为艺术创作提供新的维度，或是引入艺术创造中的概念性和批判力，拓展对于建筑的固有认知。

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“逝者如斯 How It Flows On”

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Assistant Curator: Mo Wanli 

She is a doctoral student at the College of Architecture and Urban Planning, Tongji University. She received her Master of Architecture Degree from Yale University;

Mo is the curator of Home, Sweet Home(2017) exhibition at Shanghai Power Station of Arts. She has also served as an assistant curator of the Pavilion of China, Biennale Architettura,  2018 Shanghai Urban Space Art Season 2017;

Since 2018, she has served as the acting editor of Architecture China. She has published multiple times in Architectural Journal, Time+Architecture, The Art Newspaper.

As a young architecture scholar and curator, she has curated many art exhibitons. She, together with her classmates Deng Yuanye and Lin Lin, formed the curating team “Discussion Group of Housewives”, and jointly created the exhibition “Home, Sweet Home” (Power Station of Art, 2017). The exhibition focused on the observation of women’s different identities in society and the thinking of the relationship between women and family. The exhibition won the first prize in the “Emerging Curators Project” of Power Station of Art in 2017 after four months of implementation. 

Home, Sweet Home, exhibition view 

"Still Life", exhibition view

Q

As the assistant curator of the exhibition How It Flows On, could you tell us how you understand this exhibition?

Mo：In 2020, the epidemic seems to have changed everyone's lives fundamentally, but it also has also accelerated some trends that previously existed. The exhibition How It Flows On is quite interesting in the way that through the collaboration between architect and artists, we accomplished a simultaneous connection of different places. This is one of the many things that the epidemic has left us with—a brand new and significantly important experience of space. Whether it is online conferences, seminars, exhibitions or art fairs, it pushes us to start using virtual methods to experience what happens in the real world. It also made the issue of how to demonstrate the realistic qualities of public space in the virtual world and its implicit publicity become urgent issues.

Picture of Riverside Passage 

How It Flows On rendering view of APSMUSEUM (birdview)

The exhibition brings the audience a kind of defamiliarization experience of the urban space and daily life through the superposition of the image of Riverside Passage and a series of weightless animation characters created by artist Qiu Anxiong. On the one hand, it opens up a new perspective for us to experience the city; on the other hand, it triggers a reflection on the current life state through the weightlessness. I also look forward to the polyphonic music performance created by the musician Jin Wang at the opening ceremony. It seems to establish a new connection through simultaneous performance of musicians at different places across the Huangpu River.

Q

How It Flow On addresses the topic of space interaction. On the one hand, it is the art space located in the vibrant shopping center; on the other hand, the deserted industrial building has already lost its original function. What would you say about the combination of the two locations?

Mo：I think the combination of the two spaces which differ from each other in function and form almost create a narrative of history. Located in the abandoned industrial site, the Riverside Passage is a witness of Shanghai’s past industrial history; while the L+ Mall in Lujiazui is part of the most contemporary and lively part of the city of Shanghai . By reproducing the scene of the Riverside Passage in APSMUSEUM through fast-speed network and screens, it enables the audience to experience another dimension of time. 

Q

You have had abundant background in architectural design and theoretical analysis and have also curated a number of art exhibitions. How do you think about the future of the combination of art and architecture?

Mo：In the past, architecture has always been considered as a subject of art. In fact, since ancient times, the boundary between architects and artists have always been vague. For example, the artist Gordon Matta-Clark studied architecture at Cornell University, that is why his understanding of space is demonstrated in many of his artworks. Moreover, architects such as Kazuyo Sejima, Sou Fujimoto, and Jun'ya Ishigami have created many art installations. I think the combination of art and architecture brings more perspective for people to understand space, and also new angles for artistic creations. Furthermore, it could also introduce the concept and critical analysis in art and expand our old understanding of architecture. 

Mo Wanli

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How It Flows On

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